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51 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:01 pm

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Was talking to Sean last night about doing a thread for that this week Dancing so will start it up sometime in the week and will pay full attention to them cards over the month try getting some good prices in early.

Think racing is what you make of it, me i like the excitement the rush of horses like Thistlecrack, Cue Card i like jumping on the hype getting the buzz, this year most of that was killed off and found it hard to create that feeling of looking forward to certain battles, but sometimes it is a case of going with the flow. 

Will always enjoy the racing and will always gamble but sometimes enjoying and gambling never fall hand in hand i find myself gambling for the hell of it habit at the moment it is why i turned more of a follower than a tipster because the heart was not in it to confidently write up on horses i had very little faith in anymore. 

Funny thing happened other day was the Bowen brothers they brought my spark back, watching them two battle it out With Holly Bush and Ballidine brought back a spark, so big things to come for the racing in time just give it a chance i say x

52 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:04 pm

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Trouble with day by day you going to find the long cold daunting hours of the racing world, i find it hard to pick 1 horse a month sometimes i check the cards every single night without fail and rarely manage to find the one worth mentioning this Season last Season i was finding 3-4 a month which is many horses so does sum up this season pretty much, was saying last month on here the climate change is going to effect horse racing in a big way cards will be cancelled more often next season and every winter it will get worse because the weather is getting wetter and colder each year. Horses are going to need to adjust like humanity with the weather.

53 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:08 pm

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Will look forward to the Festival thread i got a few picks i be interested in taking that would like to hear everyone elses views on certain races, i think we have reliable people on this site who know when to stop and know when to play which i always find much better, Steve is a stand out this year on here he is bringing in lots of winners everyone who is on here does well in what i find tough times. Good to see you active again Charlotte x

54 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:12 pm

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Without a doubt things are going to change in the jumps if the weather keeps getting worse each year Colin, but the type of changes that need i do not think have been thought on just yet because not something you would of expected interesting topic to raise up that one day will have to discuss with you but wont bore people on here lol, thank you oldrum will be more social when the Cheltenham thread is open up we can do out little gambles again see if the old team of rum and ice can get some money again lol x

55 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:16 pm

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I come on everyday to look and think all do really well i do try to look at the cards but i only like the household names and they all been losing 

56 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:17 pm

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@Luana wrote:Seven-Fifty-five Wolverhampton Coillte Caillin 14/1

Fits this part for me tonight, got some of the best speed figures in this race and is bottom three in the weights. Comes today off a mark of 79. This is a pretty big drop when you take into account was winning class 3 races on the AW tracks on a mark of 90 this time last year, when racing and winning over todays C&D was in December 2016 and managed to win on a mark of 85 and 80. Managed to place 3rd in last two races last start was only beaten by a neck think she should of won her last race this race looks like will be hers in my view
I bump this for you just incase anyone misses it x   i followed it i always follow all your bets

57 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:28 am

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Will sort out ze Cheltenham thread for ya all kelly should be back in ze week and goin take full attention with the fiver challenge etc again voodoo now n she doing some new tab idea which should make it easier to navigate between threads on here because all will have own tab button instead scrolling down pages but we c how that goes i jus say yer to her an she tests it out but will defo be puttin up ze chelt  thread prob b tomorrow nite and check ice out pretendin that she wants intellectual convo with Col then quickly adds dont want bore anyone in other words rushin off init loooooooool


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58 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:32 am

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lol, i did think that lol. You know this new messenger button Sean, i found out you can load the Lounge room tab up and it stays up forever then updating so think we should move all the chat stuff to that so tips do not get lost because easy to navigate this part using the chat button

59 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:33 am

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will do tha also bud i go over it 2moz nite


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60 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:38 am

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@Sean wrote:Will sort out ze Cheltenham thread for ya all kelly should be back in ze week and goin take full attention with the fiver challenge etc again 
Good i am glad to hear that, always notice when Kelly not around because does not get updated use enjoy reading the winners of that and the hall of fame going to start updating the lounge with random bits and pieces of information and like voodoo said make a part of it for chat because the messenger button makes it much user friendly for me and i will enjoy that putting up little bits of news and ideas also bring back the O.R.S system i know it can be annoying each night but maybe once or twice a week type of thing more effort more money even if means couple hours a night updating it all in the early hours i always stay up late at night so wont be a problem for me so will start that tomorrow building up the lounge with different interesting (try to be interesting) ideas

61 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:48 am

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Two-thirty-five Dark and Dangerous 14/1

Fits this section today, bottom of the weights and best speed rating. Is coming on a mark of 103 when was on this mark he won the race by a giant 16L under todays jockey who offers the usual 7lbs that was over 2m 1f so the drop in trip for this race will suit having had runs over 2m 5 soft ground to suit so hard to pass

62 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:50 pm

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Halo Moon Doncaster Three-Twenty 12/1

Changed my plans slightly on this instead of just hunting Speed+Weight i sometimes going to go with just the bottom weight because finding not much often is matching the Bottom weight and speed at the same time.

This was last racing at Fakenham first race since November and was only 3L behind Holly Bush Henry, he was racing really well but made a mistake towards the end and could not pick up Mulholland is working well could win here.


Heaven's Guest Newcastle Three-Ten 10/1

A other bottom weighted coming on a mark of 87 2lb higher than last start when winning by half length off a mark of 85 at this course.

Won previously off a mark of 103 Ascot class two race and should be able to do so again, last year was only just beaten at C&D on a mark of 104 does well on the AW

63 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:37 am

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Good to see you back in this secton again Luna

I have backed Higher Court....5/1...8.15...Kempton. ..stepping up in Class but has excellent form in Class 5 and hopefully will maintain.

64 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:32 am

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For Carmel...2.00 ...Exeter...5/1

65 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:03 pm

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Five-Forty Kempton Flight of Fantasy

Comes here on a mark of 85 with the eyecatching Josephine Gordon booked in who is yet to have a winner of late which is not like her.

What stands out for me is the form of this horse over the course, 2221 the last being back in January when winning by 5L off a mark of 77 so is 8lbs higher for this and will be the first time challening in class 2 company but did run a very good race at Kempton in class 3 when only beaten a Small Head by Al Hamdany 


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66 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:22 am

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One-fifty Uttoxeter Agent Louise 16/1 

Fits both Best speed and Bottom weights, is coming on a mark of 74 back to when running over C&D a few years ago when only beaten under a length that day on heavy going jockey is in form and now might be able to win here

67 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:59 pm

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@Luana wrote:One-fifty Uttoxeter Agent Louise 16/1 

Fits both Best speed and Bottom weights, is coming on a mark of 74 back to when running over C&D a few years ago when only beaten under a length that day on heavy going jockey is in form and now might be able to win here
Well done Luana xx

68 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:05 pm

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Thank you Luana x

69 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:35 pm

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Well done Luana some brilliant racing today so far on ITV see all 5 of them lined up similar to race before enjoying racing today, think the Festival is just what we all needed to make us want to watch again after a hard year of card pulls etc

70 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:30 pm

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Two O'clock Space War 20/1

2nd bottom of the weights, is set to go off a mark of 62 + 7lb claimer making it 8lbs lighter than when last winning on the AW over this distance (had a 5lb claimer that day) that becomes just 4lbs lighter than when winning in these conditions, when last seen was coming 4th out of 11 is a previous course winner, just suggest a small stake on this one in what looks a competitive race with Crosse Fire looking set to take this race two years in a row if i was having a big gamble it would be Crosse Fire, Gabrial The Devil and Space War in that order with big concern being Monks Stand for me 

Risky Each-way small stakes advised

71 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:55 pm

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Two O'clock Irish Thistle 9/1

Bottom weighted in this race coming at a mark of 85, when last seen over 1m 7f was competing in a class 3 race at Sandown in the Albert Hall Chase off a mark of 118 winning even tho making a mistake in that race.

Was coming off a 230 day break on last start and was on a mark of 89 making it 4lb higher weighted, so 85 will be his lowest mark yet over the chase , not sure about the Hurdles or flats i do not check that part.

Keeps the strong booking of Sam Twiston-Davies booked in who is currently 33% having had a few Nicholls horses win for him nothing that was a standout but still winners are winners. Will be having conditions and weight to suit tomorrow here is hoping

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72 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:56 pm

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Three O'clock One Master 18/1

She seems to be a good horse, already winning a class one race over at Ascot in the October Stakes race, she is bottom weights for this race now, Ryan Moore did rate her well and Haggis is on fire with a 100% strike rate, Doyle is booked in, and at the odds it is worth seeing if was just a lucky horse that day or will we see much better again from her

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73 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:10 am

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Our Lucas. ...2.40...Ayr

I see that Sean has tipped this over in SAS , he is also in my Friday Fiver. Up in class as he bids for hat trick. Available at 6/1 or 11/2 for 4 Places.  BET 365

Thanks again for RP...there is terrific info in the paper if you could only dig it out properly!

74 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:02 pm

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One thirty Pearl Noir 22/1

Bottom of the weights, comes today off a mark of 58 which is similar to his AW rating and 2lb lighter to when he wont at Ripon last year winning that day by over a length and is 14lb lighter than when winning over this course and distance around this time of year he is known to win races and over this course shown good past form 

Each-Way small stake suggested

75 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:08 pm

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five thirty Mitchum 8/1 

Going against the tracker horse with this today, comes here off a mark of 46 + the 5lb claim when racing off a similar mark was coming 4th out of 14 in the Catterick race this is the best time of year to back this horse and the 5f on soft going is certainly worth backing this bottom of the weights horse 


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76 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:40 pm

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Thank you Mary for the cover x

77 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Mon May 07, 2018 7:26 pm

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Eight O'clock Excellent Team 10/1


Not bottom weighted but this part became like my home to place my tips 


This is on a mark of 105 for this race, adding into account the 7lb claimer booked in puts this at a mark of 98 making it 10lb lighter than when winning at c&d the drop to 2m and a return to good ground will be a bonus and the trainer Skelton is on form


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78 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Tue May 08, 2018 2:55 pm

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I didnt post here, but i did in my wannabee thread

Million dollar man won at 6-1 in the 2:40 fake, not a carpet price but a winner nevertheless , ive found that the handicap system works best in 2 miles and over rather than sprints

79 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Sun May 13, 2018 7:12 pm

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Seven fifty Essenaitch 8/1

Joint bottom of the weights in this race, only 2lb higher than when winning over c&d last August with todays jockey booked in, but is 1lb lighter than when winning at Nottingham a couple of starts after.

When last seen over C&D was on the heave going and managed to come 3rd, does have over 50% win/place strike rate over this course having won 2 out of the twelve and placed in 5 of them. 

The part of form that stood out to me was the good to soft going when racing over this type of ground he managed to win 4 out of the 10 starts and placed in 3 of them and Egan never fails to ride bad on this horse

Each-way Advised 

Small stakes also advised on the 3 Egan horses to get a Each-way patent 

One Fifty Blasim 9/2
five fifty Temple of Wonder 16/1 
Seven Fifty Essenaitch 8/1

80 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Fri May 25, 2018 11:06 pm

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Five Twenty House Call 8/1

Is yet to win a race slightly out of the Handicap but with Sean Davis taking off 7lb i can see this being any big issue just been the sort of horse that seems unlucky having placed 4 times in lst 5 starts often running on the AW and Soft going so should be interesting see how handles the ground and with the weather not sure on how it will be would not mind bit of rain falling 

Each-way Advised 

81 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:01 am

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Seven Fifteen Outback Traveller 7/1

Just want to make a case for this horse today, because why not overly confident on it i feel deserves a mention on the site.

This horse is returning to the turf today, last time seen on the turf was in October 2017 in a class 2 race. Today is in a class 3 race first time seen in this class since August 2015 rest the time been competing in class 1 and 2 comes at a mark of 93 that is 4lbs lighter than when last seen on the turf, was racing at York in the Coral Sprint in October on good ground in class 2 and did beat some good horses that day Growl and Mr Lupton being two of them he showed promise that day a return to form from his Ascot run in the Wokingham Stakes where beat Shared Equity  who just went onto win at Epsom in the Investec Zebra. If all goes well for this horse it is booked to ride in the Wokingham again this year but i guess they seeing how performs in this race first. June is the perfect time to have a bet on this horse and when racing in class 3 races he is 2 wins 2 places from 6 starts, so the drop in class is a standout here.

Jamie Spencer booked in and he is doing well having already had a winner for this trainer at Goodwood with Raucous, and he is doing well when racing at Windsor this season. They have a 50% strike rate when working together this season.

I would of liked to of seen the odds bit more higher around 12-14/1 i would rate this horse, but am happy to accept the 7/1 and write up on it to show people i am still around, just nothing is catching the eye at the moment so it is not that i am not looking i look every night.

Note mainly for the tipping board section 

I will be doing a win only bet on this, and would suggest a each-way if see the odds drift to what i wrote above, i personally doing the win only because it is the type of horse that will either win or not and do not feel spending the bit extra for the place money is worth it stakes small and enjoy the cards. I will like to be included in the leaderboard please so all bets i put in here can you include me i like the idea of that it shows confidence amongst our great tipsters on this site nothing to hide sort of way about it all and will bring plenty of competition because everyone wants to be at the top. 

Win only Advised 

82 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:15 am

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@Luana wrote: I will like to be included in the leaderboard please so all bets i put in here can you include me i like the idea of that it shows confidence amongst our great tipsters on this site nothing to hide sort of way about it all and will bring plenty of competition because everyone wants to be at the top. 

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I got my eye on 2 other tipsters from a other site been watching them the past couple of months and writing down they show a decent profit/strike rate and will be asking them over soon so be lot more competition for you Luana, i am slowing down on my tips now because was working it out i taking on more and more bets each day at one time it was 8 bets so trying to go back to 2-4 each day but at the same time i would do more if others really stood out especially now the leaderboard is around i want to be at top   so got to focus more i do like your pick for tomorrow if one of the trackers or my two become a NR i will have a bet on this one if stays at the odds if drops i will miss it out

83 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:48 am

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my pick is red alert for this race , luke morris and lost the race only in the last stride 18-1

84 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:48 pm

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Four Thirty Zulu Oscar 12/1

Comes here today on a mark of 110, that is 12lbs lighter than last winning mark this time last year when winning by 2L at Chepstow on a mark of 122 beating that occasion Muffins for Tea. This will be the first time he is seeing the distance of 2m7f but did manage 2m5 so should not be a issue.

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Two Fifteen Kiruna Peak 7/1

She is taking her first handicap hurdle debut here on a nice mark of 94 Timeform rates this a main danger to the current favourite Westerbee, but like it says he prone to mistakes that horse so i backing this one

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85 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:02 am

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Not the strongest of returns for me this Year but not one to give up we go again 

Ten past two Goal 7/1

Comes here at a mark of 97, which is 1lb lighter than when last winning and 3lb lighter than when coming 6th over C&D on his last start. 

Each-Way advised 

Four O'clock Rock N Rolla 8/1

I would of liked to of seen a bigger price but will take it, steps up to 1,1f here when seen over this distance last was only beaten a neck off a mark of 74 was so unlucky if you backed him last time you would not of felt like did not get a real run for your money he done well and with the ground going soft he could make a bold bid towards the end and get himself a win i will expect this one to be drifting out 

Out of the two my most confident one goes to Rock N Rolla

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Also a Small Each-Way double advised 

86 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:48 pm

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Three O'clock Nuzha 10/1

Is on the same mark of 49 as when placing over c&d last time out was beaten 2l that day she showed at Southwell in a class 5 when winning by 4l that this task is not beyond her yet to win on the turf but that should change here 

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Ten past seven Glamorous Dream 8/1

Weird one this horse is managed to win finally on last start with Probert taking the ride and gets a big 8lb raised here is stepping back to 6f now having ran over 6 on the AW is sure to find this much tougher but i feel the inform Probert can see this get a other win 


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Eight Thirty Valco De Touzaine 16/1

The step to 2m4 might be just what this horse is needing, had Draycott Place 7l behind at Punchestown last start and is getting extra 1lb off now for that race was once rated a 144 horse and was winning off 13lb higher two years ago went off to the hurdles then  returned to chasing in June 

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87 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:16 pm

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Four o'clock Heir of excitement 12/1

First time wind op and is coming off a mark of 67 here and won a race last May on a mark of 72 which now makes this 5lb lighter than when last winning and going back over similar circumstances with the drop back to 7f still a young horse and bottom of the weights. It also posts the best speed over Distance and Going which is good to firm, is the best rated horse in the field. Shane Gray the jockey booked in had the win that day on this horse


Each-way advised 

88 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:43 pm

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Four o'clock Masham Star 9/1 

Just noticed last horse i advised on here was Four o'clock. 

I wonder how many people read that and quickly jumped off the page and left, would not blame anyone. I know let a few down more than once on here more so during a challenge, what makes me go for this is the weights now is 4lb lighter than last start and only 3lb higher than last win at a mark of 92 here, prefers the smaller fields and they have put in stablemate Poet's Society, i would love them both to get head in front at the start and really set the pace and make all and towards the end these two battling it out, maybe some might want to use that for a cover not me well not today. Last year was 2nd over c&d with very similar conditions off a mark of 100 that makes this now 8lbs lighter, Norton is booked in who is now 25% along with the trainer who is inform and also posts the best speed over course going and distance

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89 Re: Bottom three in the handicap....Part 2 on Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:10 pm

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