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101 Re: Race by race on Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:53 pm

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I think you right Scram might be something to do with that because just looked and it says it allows links and so forth to be put up x

102 Re: Race by race on Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:20 pm

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@Scram wrote:Thank you icequeen! nothing amazing but day by day the pot goes up which is the purpose of the game...


nope, table still does not want to appear, annoying that...


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Macaque
Miss inga sock
pick a little
luis fernandez
flower cup
johannes vermeer
world war
ben button
dalouga
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gold class


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cool spirit
mia cara
believe it
frank bridge
way of wisdom
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full of promise
indy
time medicean
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noble intention
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i think i might just bet on the " from now on, not so many, odds a bit more interesting than the others which are short + the last 12 days have seen consistent returns. probably singles + Lucky 63.

Worst day so far in terms of returns.
Wins and places are aplenty but not enough wins and too many places on very shorts which do not bring anything...
* Win % 33.33%
3 5 1 -5.97 Place % 88.89%

" Win % 20.00%
3 8 4 -17.97 Place % 73.33%
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Total Win % 21.74%
5 9 9 -16.97 Place % 60.87%


painful

103 Re: Race by race on Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:15 pm

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Everyone feeling the difficulty lately Scram it soon change around still very positive results here

104 Re: Race by race on Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:06 pm

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Thanks Kelly.
Pretty dire today. Positive in percentages win+places but if not combined properly a loss, and tough to combine...

Consistent system but today it was a mountain to climb to get 50 pts back + a profit. a pity on so many places on shorts.

the " bet brought near to nothing to my bank, fortunately i had a Lucky 15 with peachey carnehan (place), nellie pledge and frozon (also champagne bob - loser) and the pass the cristal single ... still a bit of a loss


Better tomorrow and i qualified this week for a free tenner with the bookie... another chance to get back what was lost today (the grand total of 3.39 pounds :P i have still a few months in front of me before being bankrupt at that rhythm)!

105 Re: Race by race on Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:00 am

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Strictly carter 5/1 m
Felisa 5/2 s
Impact point 11/10 s
Top offer 9/1 m
Rumshak 8/11 xs *
Tawdeea 15/2 m
Jonny delta 2/1 s *
Indian warrior 2/1 s "
Ban shoof 9/2 s
Free forum 5/4 s "
Highly sprung 7/2 s *
Easy code 9/4 s *
Defining moment 11/4 s "
Crown leah 4/5 xs *
Indian rain 5/4 s "
Ballet shoes 11/4 s "
Eleuthera 4/1 s *
Day break 9/4 s
Lexington grace 4/5 xs *
Ghinia 7/1 m
Titi makfi 13/8 s "
Exhort 8/11 xs *
Ayresome angel 11/4 s

106 Re: Race by race on Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:50 pm

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@Scram wrote:Strictly carter 5/1 m
Felisa 5/2 s
Impact point 11/10 s
Top offer 9/1 m
Rumshak 8/11 xs *
Tawdeea 15/2 m
Jonny delta 2/1 s *
Indian warrior 2/1 s "
Ban shoof 9/2 s
Free forum 5/4 s "
Highly sprung 7/2 s *
Easy code 9/4 s *
Defining moment 11/4 s "
Crown leah 4/5 xs *
Indian rain 5/4 s "
Ballet shoes 11/4 s "
Eleuthera 4/1 s *
Day break 9/4 s
Lexington grace 4/5 xs *
Ghinia 7/1 m
Titi makfi 13/8 s "
Exhort 8/11 xs *
Ayresome angel 11/4 s



Back in profit, good.

107 Re: Race by race on Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:44 am

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Right action 6/1 m 2
Oliver's gold 13/2 m 1
Zubayr 3/1 s 1
Mount logan 9/1 m 3
Mustarrid 9/2 s 2
Sea of grace 5/6 xs 1
Fire brigade 11/8 s 1
Gabrial the tiger 15/2 m 1
Glenamoy lad 5/4 s 2
Buxted dream 3/4 s 1
Canny tom 15/8 s 1
Mystic theatre 4/9 xs 1
Pomme de terre 15/8 s 2
Chebsey beau 11/2 m 5

108 Re: Race by race on Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:56 pm

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If I was Nobly Born it would be a Private Matter to be a Golden Apollo rfc!

109 Re: Race by race on Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:01 pm

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@Scram wrote:Right action 6/1 m 2
Oliver's gold 13/2 m 1
Zubayr 3/1 s 1
Mount logan 9/1 m 3
Mustarrid 9/2 s 2
Sea of grace 5/6 xs 1
Fire brigade 11/8 s 1
Gabrial the tiger 15/2 m 1
Glenamoy lad 5/4 s 2
Buxted dream 3/4 s 1
Canny tom 15/8 s 1
Mystic theatre 4/9 xs 1
Pomme de terre 15/8 s 2
Chebsey beau 11/2 m 5



Profit on * and overall, bit of a loss on "
not too bad


110 Re: Race by race on Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:23 pm

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easy one today 1 win + 2 places, pathetic and big loss.
The other races not selected here brought the winners... it will be perfect one day...

111 Re: Race by race on Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:06 pm

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Hoping for better tomorrow...
no * selected, just two "(2)

112 Re: Race by race on Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:01 pm

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@Scram wrote:Hoping for better tomorrow...
no * selected, just two "(2)


I prefer days like today:

113 Re: Race by race on Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:31 pm

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114 Re: Race by race on Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:04 pm

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@Scram wrote:Tuesday


Pity about the 2 losers...

115 Re: Race by race on Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:33 pm

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116 Re: Race by race on Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:55 pm

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@Scram wrote:Wednesday


A few nice winners :)

117 Re: Race by race on Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:32 am

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118 Re: Race by race on Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:53 pm

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@Scram wrote:Thursday


argh, thought about doing all the medium and large together and forgot...

119 Re: Race by race on Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:21 am

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120 Re: Race by race on Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:53 pm

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@Scram wrote:Friday


Nice results for the larger odd ones. betting on all horses over the 21 days this has been running has just brought a profit over 100 pounds (on 2 pounds bets on below 5/1, 1 pound e/w over 5/1, 1/5) (102.66 actually).

121 Re: Race by race on Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:53 pm

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good work scram, would you get a good return if you put them in a single bet like a golitath?

122 Re: Race by race on Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:13 pm

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Possibly, especially medium and large ones.
yesterday a super heinz on them would have brought back 1500 gbp!
The lucky on medium only would have brought back over 150...

you can consider the ones ranked 1 and 2 together, that has a good strike rate. 3 and 4 are also ok.
Problem with ranked 1 is that often they are quite short odds so a goliath or else is probably not worth it each way and a couple of places make it a losing one in a win only scenario.
When it is too short i tend to just skip these horses altogether. At the Small level when it gets around 3/1 to 9/2 it can be worth doing a multiple maybe even each way on 1 and 2.
If they are ranked 3, 4 or higher and are shortish then maybe skip them. If they are medium or bigger odds  and 3,4 or 5 then it is ok. Any higher position is still possible to place or win but maybe not so often based on the 21 days of data.

123 Re: Race by race on Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:06 pm

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@Scram wrote:Possibly, especially medium and large ones.
yesterday a super heinz on them would have brought back 1500 gbp!
The lucky on medium only would have brought back over 150...
That is most certainly interesting numbers anyone mentions over a grand to me i sit up and pay attention lol, often check these parts and always some good work going on in this room and the 18+ i am going have set a pot aside and start following some of these was only other day you had a 150/1 place which is very hard to manage brings real meaning to place value that does

124 Re: Race by race on Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:14 am

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Indeed Bill. I wish i had put the super heinz on. In truth it was probably something i would not have done unless on the Friday game. On pressing the bet button I would have reverted to a Lucky31. Lucky 31 pays nicely too on 62p, i still do 1p per bet on multiples. Gives me food for thoughts for the next days though...

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5 large and 2 medium. I guess it calls for a super heinz. I have a couple of free fivers from coral so one is going on this, whatever will happen...
Possibly all the number 2s together in a lucky63 might be too.
Number ones are a bit small but some sort of bet to win might be, albeit a smaller number of them, probably 7 of them and do a 4 or 5 fold on that lot.

Then I need to check Nick's ratings and pick the matches i have with him and build some kind of multiple bet with them...
That should be enough for Saturday

125 Re: Race by race on Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:28 pm

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well... unfortunately this does not work everyday... :(
oh well, not dramatic.
Sean o'casey finished 3rd but there was a NR and a 7 horse race, after recount the lucky 15 i put it in actually did not pay this one...



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126 Re: Race by race on Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:24 am

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probably would avoid Moore's rides, but then...

127 Re: Race by race on Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:12 pm

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Back in business...



Week stats:
* (or number 1) = 14 wins + 10 places + 7 lost = +14.17
*+" (or number 1+2) = 1 stats above + 2 stats (3 wins + 6 places + 10 lost) = -5.93
All bets (95 bets) = 33 wins + 25 places + 37 lost = +94.89

128 Re: Race by race on Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:31 am

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129 Re: Race by race on Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:31 pm

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* and " still not great but overall ok, as long as medium and large work...

130 Re: Race by race on Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:58 am

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131 Re: Race by race on Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:54 pm

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poor for money returns but ok colour wise

132 Re: Race by race on Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:52 pm

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133 Re: Race by race on Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:43 pm

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oh dear...

134 Re: Race by race on Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:46 am

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135 Re: Race by race on Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:39 pm

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Different day - different result. Much better. Conclusion rubbish in festivals and RL Moore proving that he should almost never be backed...

136 Re: Race by race on Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:10 pm

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sorry forgot to post that one today...

137 Re: Race by race on Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:39 pm

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not too bad, confirmation York and festivals better be forgotten...

138 Re: Race by race on Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:40 pm

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Lot of people find the festivals hard i because it either the odds on winning or some wild card

139 Re: Race by race on Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:49 pm

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indeed.
too many good horses and the stats go out the window + changing overnight and challenging ground this week did not help...

I hope you check the ratings section. That is doing nicely :) (apart from york of course :P )

140 Re: Race by race on Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:44 am

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doing great scram, love this section

141 Re: Race by race on Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:29 pm

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Cheers Ubik.
Sorry forgot the post this morning. Went out to pick mushrooms and busy. But it was made and results are ok colourwise, small loss in terms of odds returned. Medium is ok

142 Re: Race by race on Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:40 pm

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i'm gonna take a serious look at these

143 Re: Race by race on Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:26 pm

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Here you go

some rules: probably avoid bets on any horse with Moore on; the super short are not especially worth going for (xs), Small depends, Medium and large might be

144 Re: Race by race on Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:38 pm

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mixed bag so far, but got a winner!  and yep ryan moore. very poor. but had to follow the system except added my own one hyde park

Curragh 14:00 - Outright BettingBallet ShoesSuperheinz1.302.400.00PlacedPending
Goodwood 14:10 - Outright BettingIbn Al Emarat2.25Won
Goodwood 14:45 - Outright BettingIconic Belle1.73Open
Goodwood 15:20 - Outright BettingFrontispiece4.00Open
Goodwood 15:55 - Outright BettingCity Ground9.00Open
Yarmouth 14:20 - Outright BettingZorba The Greek2.38Lost
Yarmouth 17:15 - Outright BettingHyde Park12.00Ope

145 Re: Race by race on Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:29 pm

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lol, well good fun but would have made more profit just betting on my one!
got a £1 back!

146 Re: Race by race on Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:34 pm

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Indeed Ubik, does not work amazingly everyday for a nice multi profit.
It is like every bets, it is not a massive loser kind of thing.
Betting on singles over 30 days brings a profit of 127 pounds so not a money spinners but not a big loser.
Betting on all number ones during the same period would have brought a profit of 5.77 (woohoo!)
all the number 2 only a profit of 11.91
Shows that probably better not to bet on number one and 2 as there is more profit on all the others...

Bets is the matches with Nick's ratings. over 15 days profit is 116.82. I am actually betting single on these matches and they are a nice pot builder. Trying multis as well on number 1, 2 and other + nick's matches, brings bits and bobs.

Just need to plug along with the multis, eventually there will be a massive win as the results day in day out are not totally write offs. As long as they are cheap and bring back a little i am fine to wait for the big one.



today's results


Actually quite a skill you have! you picked 4 of today's six losers! Let me know which you are going for tomorrow please ;) :P

147 Re: Race by race on Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:48 pm

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Quite a list for Monday...

I am tempted by a double Espeegee / Beepeecee purely because of the name
Then probably going on medium and large and probably forget about the others. Way too many...

148 Re: Race by race on Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:53 pm

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not really a day to remember...

149 Re: Race by race on Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:55 am

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150 Re: Race by race on Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:37 pm

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in the green, all that is needed... could have a few higher winners...

151 Re: Race by race on Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:19 am

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152 Re: Race by race on Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:48 pm

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Some days you just need a winner to make it...

153 Re: Race by race on Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:26 am

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154 Re: Race by race on Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:45 pm

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Bot a huge money maker but gets you entertained all day with results...

the xs ones all won but at that level who bets on that...

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